
 The Hub with Wang Guan Deep Dive: Roundtable on shared futures
 Jun 12, 2025 
 Doug Bando, a former special assistant to President Reagan at the Cato Institute, Fabian Zulig, an economist with the European Policy Center, and Dennis Simon, a senior lecturer at Duke's Asian Pacific Studies Institute, delve into the complexities of U.S.-China relations. They discuss the delicate balance of competition and collaboration in trade, the impact of rising tensions on global economies, and the evolving role of Europe in this dynamic. The conversation emphasizes the urgent need for dialogue to overcome mistrust and promote collective action against global challenges. 
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 Intro 
 00:00 • 2min 
 US-China Trade Dynamics and Global Implications 
 01:33 • 10min 
 Rethinking the Liberal World Order 
 11:15 • 4min 
 Renewing U.S.-China Dialogue on Science and Technology 
 14:55 • 2min 
 Reinventing European Defense: Embracing Flexibility and Coalition Strategies 
 17:12 • 2min 
 Navigating Turbulent Waters: Europe, China, and the U.S. 
 19:40 • 7min 



