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Against the Rules with Michael Lewis

Judging Sam: The Hail Mary That Wasn’t

Nov 1, 2023
Lydia Jean Kott, a court reporter covering the Sam Bankman-Fried trial, dives into the dramatic final days of the courtroom saga. She discusses the prosecution's closing arguments and the pivotal moments during witness testimonies. Lydia reveals the tension surrounding key pieces of evidence and the emotional stakes of the crypto ambitions at play. The ethical implications of risk-taking and accountability in finance also come to the forefront, making for a riveting conversation about the complexities of justice.
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Quick takeaways

  • Sam Bankman-Fried employed evasive responses and a lack of memorable recollections during his testimony, frustrating both sides in presenting their case.
  • Sam Bankman-Fried's ambitious nature and desire for grandiose success potentially drove his decisions, despite already experiencing significant success.

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Important details of the trial and witness testimonies

During the trial, the prosecution finished questioning Sam Bankman Freed, who often claimed he didn't remember important details. The defense followed up with a redirect, and both sides rested. The day concluded with a charging conference, in which lawyers and the judge discussed instructions to the jury about each charge. The defense disagreed with the inclusion of the clause regarding conscious avoidance. The podcast host and his guest discussed the strategy adopted by Sam during his testimony, noting his evasive responses and lack of memorable recollections. They also highlighted the frustration of both sides trying to make their case and the possibility of a second trial involving American politicians.

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