S3 E11. Israel’s Dilemma: Free the Hostages or Destroy Hamas?

Every Saturday for the last 7 weeks Israelis have been riveted to their television screens, watching the release of hostages, alive and dead. I expect that many reading this introduction have followed the coverage and been horrified by the macabre propaganda theatre productions of Hamas. Today, after so much gut wrenching testimony, funerals, and cruel videos released by Hamas, State of Tel Aviv gets into this terrible time with a good friend of the podcast, Lt. Col. (Res.) Jonathan Conricus, senior fellow with FDD and so much more. We begin and end with a clip from a TV interview with recently released hostage, Eli Sharabi, that aired in Israel last Thursday. His appearance and what he revealed in his testimony shocked the world. Jonathan Conricus and I discuss the imperative of bringing every hostage home and how that squares with the competing necessity of destroying Hamas, once and for all. How did we get here, what is actually going on and where might we be headed?

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Jonathan Conricus is a senior fellow with the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, a Washington D.C.-based think tank. He served in the IDF for 24 years, four of them as spokesman during the intense 11 days of the Guardian of the Walls Operation between Israel and Hamas. Now a reserve officer with the rank of Lt. Col., he is a sought-after speaker internationally and is frequently seen on major television news shows. Jonathan was born in Jerusalem to a Swedish father and an Israeli mother and spent his formative years in Sweden.

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