Dr. Ryan Cragun, sociologist, discusses the decline of the Mormon Church in Utah and worldwide, questioning the accuracy of membership numbers and exploring factors contributing to the decline. The controversy surrounding the church's membership data is also explored, along with the impact of migration, secularization, and individuals leaving the church. The podcast touches on the reasons behind recent temple construction announcements, analyzes a specific book, and discusses the growth of the Mormon Church in Africa. The hosts express appreciation for Dr. Cragun's work and encourage donations.