Ep. 10 Sekret Machines: Gods, Man, & War Discussion (Part 2) w/Jim Semivan & Peter Levenda
May 25, 2022
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Former CIA officer Jim Semivan and investigator/author Peter Levenda continue their deep dive into the Sekret Machines trilogy. They discuss the need for a multidisciplinary approach to understanding the UFO phenomenon, the integration of science with spirituality, the significance of DNA and its connection to ancient esoteric traditions, and the concept of directed panspermia. They also explore the role of the UFO phenomenon as a control mechanism and share future plans for upcoming projects.
Science should expand its boundaries to incorporate diverse observations of the UFO phenomenon and embrace different paradigms and cultural perspectives.
Beware of projecting our own image onto the UFO phenomenon and explore it from multiple perspectives to avoid narrow interpretations.
The recurring theme of global catastrophes in relation to UFOs may stem from projecting our fears and anxieties about environmental issues onto the phenomenon.
Deep dives
Expanding the Boundaries of Science
Science needs to expand its boundaries to accept the UFO phenomenon and incorporate other paradigms and cultural perspectives. This expansion is necessary as our understanding of reality and consciousness continues to evolve. Radical empiricism, as proposed by William James, can provide a framework for embracing the unexplained and incorporating diverse observations into scientific study.
Anthropomorphizing the Phenomenon
Human tendency to anthropomorphize the phenomenon may lead us to project our own image onto it. The concept of the liminal figure helps understand how we create interpretations that fit our existing beliefs and experiences. By considering the possibility of projecting our own image onto the phenomenon, we can examine it from different perspectives and avoid getting trapped in narrow interpretations.
The UFO Warning Narrative
The recurring theme of warning about global catastrophes in relation to the UFO phenomenon might stem from our own fears and anxieties. This could be a result of projecting our concerns about environmental issues onto the phenomenon. Just as divine prophecy in early biblical writings emphasized doom and destruction, our response to the current environmental crisis might be mirrored in the messages associated with the phenomenon.
Understanding Consciousness
Understanding consciousness is a complex and ongoing challenge. Rather than seeking a definitive answer to what consciousness is, we should explore different modalities and types of consciousness. It may be more fruitful to consider consciousness as a pre-existing force that organizes matter, as opposed to an emergent property of the brain. By expanding our understanding of consciousness, we can gain new insights into the nature of reality and better grasp the UFO phenomenon.
The Mystery of Consciousness and DNA
The podcast delves into the concept of consciousness and its relationship to DNA. It explores the work of Francis Crick, one of the discoverers of the double helix structure of DNA, and his idea of directed panspermia, which suggests that someone or something deliberately seeded the planet with the genetic code. The podcast highlights the astonishing complexity of DNA, with only four chemicals creating everything that lives on Earth. The discussion also connects the structure of DNA to ancient Chinese philosophy, which features a chart of 64 hexagrams that symbolize the process of change. The podcast raises questions about the potential consciousness of extraterrestrial beings who may have an alternate way of handling consciousness. It also touches on the emerging field of DNA consciousness, where DNA creates the receiver or conduit for consciousness to manifest in living beings.
Exploring Panpsychism and the Passive Observer Phenomenon
The podcast touches upon the concept of panpsychism, which suggests that consciousness permeates the universe and that all things have some degree of consciousness. This leads to speculation about the consciousness of plants and even inanimate objects like rocks. The discussion acknowledges that our understanding of consciousness is still limited and that defining consciousness is a complex task. The podcast also reflects on the UFO phenomenon and suggests that it happens to us rather than us actively seeking it. This passivity makes individuals feel like victims or passive observers, similar to how victims of natural disasters or violation might feel. The podcast poses questions about the nature of control in the UFO phenomenon and considers whether these experiences are part of a larger control mechanism.