Catholic Answers Live #12479 Is There an Actual Burning in Purgatory? Gnosticism and Mary - Joe Heschmeyer
Nov 28, 2025
In this engaging conversation, Joe Heschmeyer, a Catholic author and podcaster, dives into profound topics of faith. He discusses the nature of purgatory, addressing whether it involves actual burning or is a metaphorical cleanse. Joe tackles Protestant objections to John 6, advocating for a literal interpretation of the Eucharist. He also simplifies Gnosticism, debunking its beliefs and its contrast with Catholic doctrine. Lastly, he sheds light on Mary’s familial references in the Bible, clarifying common misconceptions.
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Purgatory Is Inner Purification
- Purgatory's "fire" is an interior purifying pain rather than a literal bodily blaze.
- Scriptural images (Isaiah 6; 1 Corinthians 3) describe cleansing of conscience and soul, not bodily burning.
Press For The Literal Meaning In John 6
- When defending John 6, press askers to explain what the metaphor would mean if not Eucharist.
- Point out Jesus explicitly says the bread is his flesh and commands eating and drinking, so literal spiritual interpretation requires Church guidance.
Spirit vs Flesh Means Understanding, Not Literalism
- "Flesh" vs "spirit" in John 6 contrasts human understanding with Holy Spirit guidance, not literal body versus soul.
- Interpreting John 6 properly requires the Church's Spirit-led authority, pointing toward the Eucharist.
