In today’s podcast, Carey Sumner talks with Jonathan Malm. Jonathan is the Founder of SundaySocial and ChurchStageDesignIdeas.com and he frequently consults with organizations on topics such as guest services and creative expression. He is also the coauthor of The Come Back Effect, The Come Back Culture, The Volunteer Effect, and The Volunteer Survival Guide.

In this episode, Jonathan provides insight on ways to prevent burnout, particularly among pastors who have been greatly affected by COVID-19 and its aftermath. He is passionate about helping pastors overcome burnout and offering resources to help prevent it from happening in the future.

We hope you enjoy this conversation!

https://www.vanderbloemen.com/blog/dont-burn-out-burn-bright