In this episode I chat with Dr Dan Allender Professor of Counseling Psychology about abuse, trauma and religious organisations. Konrad asks the questions; Why do churches seem to be so full of hypocritical narcissistic leaders who abuse power? Why are we so attracted to these people?

In this episode we explore;
- How to interpret the Genesis creation poem.
- Why we love watching church leaders fail.
- Why church scandals never seem to end.
- When trauma and religion mixes
- The role of shame, power and control.
- Why people abuse power.
- Is shame good or a bad?
- Why churches don't deal with trauma well.
- What is Lust?
- Why politics is toxic
- Why we are attracted to narcissistic leaders
- The role of religion and spirituality
- The dangers of religion and cults

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https://theallendercenter.org/about/team/dan-allender/

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