The Origins Podcast with Lawrence Krauss

Lauren Schwartz and Arthur Rousseau | The War on Science Interviews | Day 17

Aug 9, 2025
In a thought-provoking discussion, Arthur Rousseau, a psychiatrist with a focus on mental health legislation, and Lauren Schwartz, a psychiatrist and former ballet dancer, tackle the complexities of gender-affirming care. They delve into the evolving standards in psychiatry, questioning the influence of organizations on treatment guidelines. The duo emphasizes the importance of informed consent for children and the need for evidence-based practices in mental health. Their insights call for accountability in medicine amidst changing societal norms.
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ANECDOTE

From Ballet To Psychiatry

  • Lauren Schwartz danced professionally for eight years and retired at 26 before returning to college to study arts and psychology.
  • She shifted into research and medicine to fully understand treatments and to be able to prescribe when needed.
INSIGHT

WPATH Drives Policy, Not Rigorous Science

  • WPATH positioned itself as the de facto authority while its Standards of Care relied heavily on lived experience and weak evidence.
  • Major medical groups deferred to WPATH and repeated claims like "life-saving" without the promised rigorous research.
INSIGHT

Major U.S. Medical Bodies Endorsed WPATH

  • Major U.S. medical organizations (AMA, APA, AAP, etc.) endorsed WPATH-derived positions, making the U.S. an outlier internationally.
  • That broad endorsement amplified unvetted recommendations and shielded practices from critical scrutiny.
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