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PRODUCTEA with Leah, Growth & Senior Leadership

106: Evie Brockwell - Burnout, Boundaries & Breaking the Hustle Cycle

May 11, 2025
Evie Brockwell, a product consultant and burnout expert, discusses the alarming burnout rates in product management. She highlights the pitfalls of toxic sprint culture and the importance of setting strict boundaries, including saying 'No' and utilizing tools like app blockers. Evie shares ADHD strategies for productivity and emphasizes that burnout affects all genders, revealing how the 'hustle' mentality is detrimental. Lastly, she compares burnout to a product issue, suggesting that treating it like churn could revolutionize workplace wellness.
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Quick takeaways

  • Burnout stems from a toxic culture of overwork and unrealistic demands placed on product managers in chaotic environments.
  • Establishing clear boundaries and encouraging open communication within teams are crucial for mitigating burnout and improving workplace culture.

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The Dual Causes of Burnout

Burnout typically arises from two main factors: personal and organizational. Individuals often find themselves in high-pressure environments that thrive on stress, while organizations impose targets and expectations that intensify this feeling. When driven individuals are placed in chaotic environments with unrealistic demands, they are likely to burn out. Recognizing both personal traits and organizational pressures is essential in addressing the root causes of burnout.

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