FFINLO COSTAIN talks to ANDY CATO, who as one half of Groove Armada, gave us classic dance anthems such as I See you Baby and At The River - but who gave it all up to farm regeneratively in France, and who now, back in Britain, is the face and founder of Wildfarmed bread. A 'steward of complexity,' who has risen to become an icon of agroecological farming.

Key moments:

* Cato's time with the Grimethorpe Colliery Band

* The Miners’ Strike (1984/'85) and the Criminal Justice Bill ('94)

* The trombone, the DJ and the sound of Groove Armada?

* The decision to farm in France

* How baking bread became the answer to Cato's problems

* The genesis of Wildfarmed bread

* Defining the Wildfarmed approach?

* Fusing old knowledge with new tech

* Wildfarmed standards?

* Balancing practices and outcomes

* Scaling regenerative supply chains

* Is it possible to feed people well, at the prices they currently pay?

* Farm Gate is Britain's top-ranked regenerative agriculture podcast - globally ranked 2nd for food security; 3rd for regen.

* Farm Gate is part of 8point9.com, the land use news channel, which is sponsored by First Milk, Pelican Ag, Rural Solutions, the Usk Catchment Partnership, Agrolo and individual donors.

* To watch instead, search for 'Farm Gate podcast' on YouTube.

Leaders - Andy Cato: Steward of complexity