Let's Talk Family Enterprise 75: Cognitive Optimization for Leadership
In this episode, host Aileen Miziolek speaks with Celina Caesar-Chavannes about why 'change' can feel so difficult in family businesses. Celina explains, in simple terms, how our brains get used to certain ways of thinking and reacting—and how that affects family relationships and decision-making. She also offers practical advice and resources to help families and professionals better navigate change and work together more effectively.
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Guest bio
Celina Caesar-Chavannes is a globally respected leader and humanitarian who, for over 25 years, has been dedicated to helping individuals awaken their innate potential and live in alignment with their unique gifts. Widely regarded as one of the foremost experts in leadership, neuroscience, and personal transformation, Celina has worked with leading organizations such as TD Bank, Canadian Tire, Aga Khan Foundation, and McDonald's Canada.
A national bestselling author and celebrated international speaker, Celina's work in cognitive consistency and inclusive leadership continues to shape the global conversation on equity, humanity, and meaningful impact.
You can learn more about Celina Caesar-Chavannes on LinkedIn and on her website.
Key Takeaways
[0:23] Aileen Miziolek welcomes Celina Caesar-Chavannes and launches the episode by asking her a little more about her career and what drives her passions.
[2:49] Change is very hard in family business systems. Celina explains how well-established neural pathways reinforce existing thoughts and behaviours.
[5:32] Trusting your gut might be a good pathway to finding alignment.
[7:38] Before alignment, there is motivated cognition. Celina breaks down how this process works and why being aware of this process is part of how the self shapes over time.
[10:42] Resistance to change is linked to neuroplasticity, and Celina likens some neuro-pathways to concrete highways.
[13:25] There are no shortcuts!
[14:44] The default mode network, the central executive network, and the salience network, and how the interaction between the three largely dictates relational dynamics.
[18:19] There is no good, bad, right, or wrong; it's just how the brain is wired. Celina offers tips on how to short-circuit the default mode network.
[20:42] How the salience network hijack makes family business more challenging.
[23:23] Celina offers a path for advisors to educate families both in individual settings and as groups.
[25:44] Aileen invites listeners to register for the FEA Kinnect Toronto event coming up this February 19th, during which Celina will be speaking.
[26:37] Celina shares some resources and advice for families and advisors listening — grab a pen!
[28:57] Aileen thanks Celina Caesar-Chavannes for sharing so much of her knowledge and invites listeners to sign up for Symposium, which will be held May 25‒27 in Vancouver, BC.
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Mentioned in this episode
Can You Hear Me Now?: How I Found My Voice and Learned to Live with Passion and Purpose, by Celina Caesar-Chavannes
FEA Kinnect Toronto: Cognitive Optimization for Leadership
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