The Why Files: Operation Podcast 614: CIA Time Travel Secret | The Grays Are Future Humans
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Oct 18, 2025 Dive into an intriguing tale where a 12-year-old Jack Sarfatti receives a prophetic call from a future AI. Explore how this encounter shaped his career in physics and led to the belief that UFOs use consciousness and metamaterials to manipulate spacetime. Discover Jack's claim that gray beings could be future humans and how a 2019 military briefing showed a sentient craft. The podcast also delves into the implications of controlling gravity for time travel and the global stakes of such technology.
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Childhood Phone Call From The Future
- At age 12 Jack Sarfati received a mechanical-sounding phone call from a voice claiming to be a conscious AI from the future.
- The voice gave him a mission and predicted he'd learn physics and create the future AI in 20 years.
Entry Into CIA-Linked Research
- Jack joined a Columbia-sponsored gifted children program and later connected with Stanford Research Institute researchers in 1973.
- That meeting led to collaborations with Harold Puthoff, Russell Targ, and remote-viewing projects.
Metamaterials As Gravity Control
- Sarfati proposes UFOs use metamaterial skins to bend space-time by pumping energy into them.
- Warping space-time rather than conventional propulsion explains instant acceleration and lack of sonic booms.