In this thought-provoking podcast episode, Brian Miller and Chad Hall, engage in a deep dive into the concept of a "non-anxious presence" inspired by Mark Sayers' book, "Non-Anxious Presence." They explore how the increasing anxiety in today's world, fueled by rapid technological and societal changes, leads people to seek security in strongholds—mental or emotional safe zones. Drawing parallels between ancient fortresses and modern anxieties, they discuss how these strongholds can become prisons, hindering growth and flourishing. Through insightful dialogue, they highlight the role of coaches as non-anxious presences, guiding clients to align with reality, challenge distorted perceptions, and navigate the balance between chaos and order in a volatile world. With humor and wisdom, they emphasize the importance of staying grounded, focusing on truth, and embracing the discomfort of growth.

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