In conversation with RevDem editor Ferenc Laczó, Sally Hayden – author of My Fourth Time, We Drowned: Seeking Refuge on the World's Deadliest Migration Route – discusses the various detention centers across Libya and sketches the profiles of the people detained in them; reflects on her ambition of centering the voices of the victims and her dilemmas concerning what to release and what not to release about their cruel treatment; addresses the role and responsibility of the European Union in the emergence and maintenance of these lawless environments, and how media and politicians have related to the results of her detailed investigations; and raises the question of accountability and how the dire situation of the victims could be improved.
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