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The Ayaan Hirsi Ali Podcast

Helen Joyce on Gender-Identity Ideology

Jul 16, 2021
Helen Joyce, The Economist's Britain editor, discusses her book on gender-identity ideology with Ayaan Hirsi Ali. They talk about the differences between US and UK feminism, challenges of speaking out on social media, and the impact of gender identity ideology on societal norms.
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Quick takeaways

  • In the face of extreme views on gender and sexuality, a hopeful scenario envisions their eventual decline akin to past mass hysteria events.
  • The worst-case scenario anticipates a deepening political divide in America leading to societal collapse, with global repercussions.

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Optimistic Scenario: Decline of Controversial Ideas

In the most optimistic scenario, the current controversial ideas and ideologies regarding gender and sexuality become a fading memory in about 20 years. The trend resembles past instances of mass hysteria that eventually faded, such as the 1990s satanic panic. Despite the destruction caused to individuals by these ideas, over time, many people forget, with only a few recalling those events. Accountability may be limited, and some individuals may distance themselves from the extreme views.

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