We continue our series on German foreign policy with an interview with Hans Kundnani (@hanshundnani), director of the Europe Programme at Chatham House and author of the book The Paradox of German Power. 

On this episode, Hans references two books: Oliver Nachtwey's Die Abstiegsgesellschaft: Über das Aufbegehren in der regressiven Moderne and Peo Hansen and Stefan Jonsson's Eurafrica: The Untold History of European Integration and Colonialism. Ted also references Hans' recent article in The Guardian, called "Europe's reputation as a cosmopolitan haven has been exposed as a mirage." 

You can find more of Hans' work on his website: https://hanskundnani.com/

Co-hosted by Ted (@ted_knudsen) and Michelle (@shhellgames). Produced by Isaac (@wuermann).

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