Klaus and I go through what happened at the Kubecon North America event in Detroit. Specifically, lessons learned in watching how the community reacts to new technologies like CRDs, declarative programming, and cluster APIs. We also discuss the health of the community and the operators and vendors who were involved. We give our impressions and insight - this conversation deep dives into practical use and futures in Kubernetes. Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/8sNj_ZMTbKuJxAhOZhlvLAckWhc Image: https://www.pexels.com/photo/elderly-man-and-woman-looking-outside-window-7551662/