Andrea Wien (@dreeats) and Afif Ghannoum (@biohmhealth) discuss a new cookie company and the rising pre/probiotic packaged goods market (2:36); ancient microbes (15:59); Weston A. Price and his work (19:44); microbes make their way into the art world (28:14); and viruses control the bacteria that control us (32:05).

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