The Good Fight Francis Fukuyama on 2025
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Dec 20, 2025 
Joined by Francis Fukuyama, a prominent political scientist and author, the conversation dives into the fragility of American institutions under Trump's influence. Fukuyama analyzes Trump's increasing authoritarianism, discussing the impact of political corruption and the shamelessness that voters tolerate. They reflect on the resilience of these institutions against electoral manipulations and explore the implications of rising populism in Europe. The discussion also touches on Ukraine's precarious future, with Fukuyama cautioning against misguided negotiations.
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Second Term Was More Dangerous Than Expected
- Francis Fukuyama argues Trump's second term became far worse, combining authoritarian aims with revenge and executive overreach.
- He highlights attempts to bypass Congress and courts while prioritizing personal vendettas over governance.
Corruption And Hollowed-Out Justice Department
- Fukuyama describes severe political corruption through pardons and hollowing out of the Justice Department.
- He warns pardons are being sold and morale at DOJ has plummeted under politicized leadership.
Internet Amplifies Shameless Politics
- Fukuyama links shameless public behavior and internet amplification to leaders' ability to mobilize support.
- He says electronic media remove barriers and reward outrageous speech to mass audiences.