Al Murray, a comedian and author known for his book on Allied strategies in WWII, joins the discussion to delve into military leadership. They explore whether British generals were effective or merely eccentric, and how the Allies transformed their fortunes after initial defeats. The conversation highlights General Patton's inspiring style, Montgomery's unexpected humor, and the pivotal role of leaders like General Slim in the Burma campaign. They also draw parallels between WWII morale and the current conflict in Ukraine, revealing timeless lessons in resilience.
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Patton's Speech
Tom Holland and Dominic Sandbrook open the podcast with a clip from the movie Patton.
This sets the stage for their discussion on the role of military commanders in World War II.
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Do Commanders Matter?
The hosts debate the importance of individual leaders in history, citing examples like Nelson, Alexander, and Caesar.
They discuss different styles of warfare, one prioritizing speed and tactics, the other emphasizing attrition and resilience.
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Montgomery's Beetroot Memo
Al Murray discusses Montgomery's focus on troop morale, including addressing venereal disease.
He recounts an anecdote from Montgomery's memo about a soldier's encounter in a beetroot field, highlighting his impish humor.
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Stalingrad, originally published in 1952 as 'For a Just Cause' (За правое дело), is a novel by Vasily Grossman that delves into the lives of Soviet citizens and soldiers during the Battle of Stalingrad. The book follows the Shaposhnikov family and their friends as they navigate the horrors of war, from the initial German invasion to the pivotal battle that marked a turning point in World War II. The novel, despite being subject to Soviet censorship, provides a vivid and engrossing portrayal of the war's impact on ordinary people. It is the first part of Grossman's dilogy, with 'Life and Fate' serving as its sequel, which critiques both Nazism and Stalinism more explicitly. The English translation by Robert and Elizabeth Chandler includes additional material from Grossman's unpublished manuscripts, aiming to reflect the author's original intentions as closely as possible.
How the War Was Won
Air-Sea Power and Allied Victory in World War II
Phillips P. O'Brien
Command
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Do commanders matter? Were the British generals effective or "foppish"? How did the Allies rebound from huge losses such as the Battle of Dunkirk to victories like Alamein and D-Day? Tom and Dominic are joined by Al Murray to discuss all this and more, following the release of Al’s new book Command: How the Allies Learned to Win the Second World War.
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