rich & REGULAR with Kiersten and Julien Saunders Ep 219: What our book 'Cashing Out' still gets right 3 years later…
When we published our book Cashing Out in 2022, we knew we were making bold claims about work, money, and freedom. What we didn’t know was just how fast the world would catch up to them.
In this episode, we revisit our book 3 years after its release to reflect on the stories, predictions, and uncomfortable truths that still hold up in 2025. We also share what we’ve learned since, and why the book continues to resonate with people across different industries, life stages, and income levels.
You’ll hear:
- Why Cashing Out still ranks in the Top 250 Budgeting & Money Management books on Amazon
- Why financial independence was always about identity, not just math
- What we saw coming with AI, leadership churn, and the collapse of “safe” careers
- The surprising reason your first dollar outside of work changes everything
- Why over-specialization and “career loyalty” quietly keep people stuck
We also share our reflections on the book’s impact and what we’d add if we wrote it today.
If you haven’t read Cashing Out yet, now’s a perfect time. And if you’ve already read it, it’s a great time to read it again with your 2025 eyes.
Last but not least, if you know someone starting their career or rethinking their future, it makes a great gift
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