Unscripted with Spencer Lodge #357: Wellness vs Wellbeing – What’s the Difference? Ryan Hopkins Talks Through What You’re NOT Told About The Workplace
This week’s guest is Ryan Hopkins, a best-selling author, workplace wellbeing expert and global keynote speaker. His book, 52 Weeks of Wellbeing, has become an international success translated into Korean, Turkish, German, Dutch, and Arabic. Ryan’s mission is to revolutionise workplace wellbeing through a no-nonsense, practical approach, positively impacting over 1.25 million people across the world.
Ryan’s career spans leadership roles at Deloitte, Bupa, and now as Chief Impact Officer at JAAQ – recently awarded UK Startup of the Year 2024 and Wellbeing Platform of the Year 2025. His public speaking portfolio includes TEDx talks, keynote speeches to over 110,000 people, and collaborations with major brands like JP Morgan, SAP, Coca Cola, Amazon, NHS, and more.
Open about his personal struggles with depression, bulimia, suicidal ideation, and late- diagnosed autism, Ryan offers a refreshingly honest take on wellbeing. His story, from writing his bestselling book in a Wetherspoons pub to setting off on a Middle East tour, embodies resilience, humour and grit.
Please welcome to the show, best-selling author & workplace wellbeing expert – Ryan Hopkins.
7:21 – How to treat wellbeing as Data
10:52 – Difference between wellness and wellbeing
18:45 – He who has a why can deal with any how
21:00 – Deal of Dual Accountability
31:40 – Issues with remote working and finding the balance
35:05 – Microsoft study and how we are distracted every 2 minutes
40:30 – Mental Health taking over Cancer for Medical Insurance claims
54:50 – What can we start to think about implementing as Leaders
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