Why don't we fight poverty by just giving people money? (with Paul Niehaus)
Aug 29, 2023
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Paul Niehaus, co-founder of GiveDirectly, discusses the impact of giving cash directly to people living in extreme poverty. He explores the logistics of implementing digital cash transfers in Sub-Saharan Africa and the positive outcomes it can have on nutrition, teen pregnancies, child marriages, and mental health. The podcast also explores the feasibility of eradicating global poverty through cash transfers, government partnerships and innovations during the pandemic, and the role of higher tax rates in fighting poverty.
Direct cash transfers can stimulate economic development and improve various aspects of people's lives in extreme poverty.
GiveDirectly's approach of providing direct cash transfers challenges traditional methods of poverty alleviation and empowers individuals to make responsible decisions with the funds.
Deep dives
Direct cash transfers can stimulate economic development
The podcast episode highlights how giving money directly to individuals living in extreme poverty can stimulate economic development. By providing people with cash transfers, they are able to purchase goods and services from others, creating a cycle of economic growth. This unorthodox approach challenges traditional methods of economic development through large NGOs and government projects. Studies have shown that direct cash transfers have positive impacts on various aspects of people's lives, such as nutrition, mental health, and reducing teen pregnancies. The episode also discusses the scalability and affordability of this approach, highlighting that a relatively small percentage of global income could potentially eradicate extreme poverty.
GiveDirectly's mission and approach
The episode introduces GiveDirectly, an organization that specializes in digital cash transfers to individuals in countries with extreme poverty. The organization believes that giving money directly to people is the most effective way to address poverty. By providing one-time transfers of around $1,000 to households in extreme poverty, GiveDirectly aims to empower individuals and enable them to make significant improvements in their lives. This approach challenges the skepticism around giving money directly, and asserts that people in poverty make responsible and impactful decisions with the funds. GiveDirectly's work primarily focuses on Sub-Saharan Africa, where mobile phone-based payments provide accessibility for recipients.
The potential of direct cash transfers in the US
The podcast explores the potential of direct cash transfers in higher income countries like the United States. While the cost of living and economic dynamics differ, the principles remain the same. Direct cash transfers have the potential to improve the lives of individuals living in poverty, reduce stress, and provide economic stimulus within communities. The episode highlights that in the US, there is a need to challenge the moral hazard associated with direct transfers and reconsider the approach to poverty through various programs and agencies that often involve lengthy processes. The conversation also emphasizes the scalability and cost-effectiveness of direct cash transfers, comparing the potential funding required to solve extreme poverty globally to the magnitude of other expenditures such as foreign aid or military spending.
The movement towards direct cash transfers and challenges
The podcast discusses the development economics community's acceptance and resistance towards direct cash transfers. While such programs have gained wide acceptance among policymakers in low-income countries and are increasingly recognized by some in the aid industry, challenges remain. Traditional perspectives and concerns surround the effectiveness and proper utilization of direct transfers. However, evidence from randomized controlled trials has shown that direct cash transfers have positive impacts and can be a more efficient way to achieve program goals. The episode also touches upon corruption risks and highlights the importance of innovative payment systems, such as mobile phone-based transfers, to mitigate risks and increase transparency. Overall, the episode advocates for a transformative shift in the approach to poverty alleviation through direct cash transfers.
We saw during the pandemic that giving people cash is good for individuals and the economy as a whole. It makes sense: When people have more money, they spend it in their communities and stimulate the local economy. So why don’t we give people money all the time? Our guest today started a charity that combats poverty by giving people cash, with no strings attached, to use how they wish. The results have been really encouraging. Paul Niehaus, co-founder of GiveDirectly, explains how his program works—and more importantly, why it works.
Paul Niehaus is an economist at UCSD and an entrepreneur working to accelerate the end of extreme poverty. He is co-founder, former president, and current director at GiveDirectly, the leading international NGO specialized in digital cash transfers and consistently rated one of the most impactful ways to give.