Q4 Market Predictions w/ Ed Sim (Boldstart) & Seyonne Kang (StepStone)
Oct 3, 2023
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Ed Sim, founder of Boldstart, and Seyonne Kang, Partner at StepStone, join the hosts to discuss Q4 market predictions. They cover topics such as the challenges faced by venture firms, the impact of current market conditions on VC fundraising, factors affecting DPI for older funds, challenges faced by companies in the Q4 VC market, geography and concentration of startup funding, and predictions for Q4 market including uncertainties in startup companies and predictions of failures and markdowns.
Q4 fundraising expected to be active with increased activity and meetings in the venture capital space, but also anticipating a rise in failures and challenges for companies lacking traction.
Pre-Series A round market remains robust with smaller rounds for early-stage founders and larger rounds for experienced founders, but companies funded at the seed stage without necessary traction may face difficulties.
LPs facing liquidity challenges, making fundraising more difficult, leading to consolidation of manager roster and selective investments; differentiation in venture capital landscape will come from investment judgment and ability to identify unique opportunities.
Deep dives
Market Conditions for Q4 and Beyond
The podcast episode discusses the current market conditions going into Q4 and provides insights into what to expect in the coming months. The discussion highlights that despite the challenges faced during Q3, there is optimism for Q4. The panelists believe that there will be a lot of activity and meetings in the venture capital space. However, they also anticipate an increase in failures and challenges for companies that have not achieved the necessary traction. The conversation emphasizes the importance for founders and investors to make strategic decisions and find creative solutions to navigate the changing landscape.
The Robust Pre-A Round Market
One of the main points discussed in the podcast is the robustness of the pre-Series A round market. The panelists note that despite some temporary slowdowns in the past, this particular stage has continued to be active. They observe that there are two types of rounds happening: smaller ones in the range of $1-2 million for early-stage founders testing their ideas, and larger ones in the $5-8 million range for more experienced founders working on their second or third venture. However, they also acknowledge the challenge faced by companies that have been funded at the seed stage but lack the necessary traction for an A-round. These companies may find themselves seeking additional funding from existing seed firms or exploring alternative solutions.
Challenges and Strategies for Fundraising
The panelists discuss the challenges and strategies related to fundraising in the current market. They note that while the fund side continues to be busy, LPs are facing liquidity challenges, making fundraising more difficult. As a result, many LPs are consolidating their manager roster and being selective with their investments. On the other hand, GPs are exploring various options to provide liquidity to their LPs, such as GP-led restructurings and LP tenders. The panelists also emphasize the importance of having a strong investment thesis and subject matter expertise to stand out in the crowded venture capital landscape. They predict that differentiation will come from investment judgment and the ability to identify unique opportunities in a market saturated with exceptional fund managers.
Importance of Experience and Expertise in Seed Fund Investing
Having experience and expertise in seed fund investing is crucial for success. This includes skills in financial engineering and structuring, as well as the ability to have hard conversations, restructure companies, recapitalize them, and understand reserves. Seed managers who are new to the field may struggle with making strategic investment decisions, leading to challenges in managing their funds effectively.
Challenges Faced by Multi-stage Firms and the Rise of Specialized Funds
Multi-stage firms may face challenges in effectively supporting and understanding early-stage companies. This can lead to a situation where companies are abandoned by multi-stage firms, creating opportunities for specialized seed funds or other investors on the cap table to step in and provide assistance through restructuring. Additionally, there is a growing recognition that hyper-specialized funds, focused on specific industries or sectors, can offer valuable expertise and support to startups, especially in navigating challenges and driving growth.
In this episode of Origins, Nicholas Chirls (Notation) and Beezer Clarkson (Sapphire Partners) host Ed Sim, founder of Boldstart and Seyonne Kang, Partner at StepStone.
Ed is the founder of boldstart ventures, a day-one partner and true believer for developer first, enterprise infra, & SaaS founders. He is currently a board member/observer of Snyk, Blockdaemon, Kustomer (sold to Meta), BigID, Protect AI, Env0, among many others.
Seyonne is a member of the private equity team, focusing on venture capital and growth equity investments. Prior to StepStone, she was a partner with Greenspring Associates, a venture capital and growth equity investment firm that merged with StepStone in 2021.
We cover a wide range of topics, including our predictions for Q4 fundraising, when the market will bottom (if it hasn't already), what happens to multi-stage firms, AI (and other) hype cycles, and how VCs can and should think about liquidity in a market like this. Enjoy!