Peter Yang, Product Lead at Roblox, discusses advancing mid to late-stage product management careers. Topics include pursuing growth over promotion, optimizing for company stage, knowing when to leave a company, trade-offs between compensation and tenure, and why top companies offer high compensation.
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Mid-Stage PM Career Advice
Focus on mid-stage PM careers, like transitioning from managing a product to managing a team.
Consider if this transition is essential for career advancement.
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Builder Story over Team Size
Today, building impactful products is more critical than simply managing large teams due to slower industry growth.
Focus on your "builder story" – what you built, its impact, and challenges overcome.
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Prioritize Growth over Promotion
To get promoted faster, find an environment where your strengths shine and you can be your true self.
Prioritize growth over promotion, focusing on building impactful products and navigating challenges.
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Much of the career advice out there is for aspiring PMs. But what about those who have one foot on the ladder and are looking to climb the next rung? This episode is about advancing mid to late-stage product management careers. I'm joined by Peter Yang, Product Lead at Roblox, and product newsletter writer, to discuss how established PMs can avoid getting stuck. From pursuing growth over promotion to knowing when to change companies, we discuss a wide range of strategies to help you continue building the career you want based on your individual goals.
Today’s discussion covers: • Wisdom for mid and late-stage product managers looking to advance their careers • Why you should focus on growth, not promotion • Optimizing for company stage instead of company name • Signs you should leave a company • The under-discussed trade-offs between compensation and tenure • Why top companies offer such high compensation
Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:27) Advancing mid or late-stage careers (04:38) Promotions matter less than you think (08:36) The different end goals for PM careers (13:56) How to find the right company to elevate your career (19:07) The best and worst reasons to change companies (23:28) The impact of short tenures on someone’s resume (27:19) Why top companies offer such high compensation (31:31) The relationship between title and compensation (34:52) Advice for negotiating compensation (37:21) The under-discussed tradeoff between compensation and tenure (39:07) Recapping the "shadows of your superpowers" (41:55) Nikhyl’s advice for dealing with a common shadow (47:43) Conclusion
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