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The Political Scene | The New Yorker

Why Trump Is Targeting Foreign Aid, with Atul Gawande

Feb 8, 2025
Atul Gawande, a renowned surgeon and former head of global health at USAID, discusses the alarming dismantling of the U.S. Agency for International Development by Trump and Musk. He highlights the dire consequences of cutting foreign aid and argues for the critical role of the agency in global health. Gawande reflects on the disconnect between elite expertise and populist sentiment, emphasizing the need for informed discourse in politics. He also explores the complex relationship between despair and hope in democracy, particularly in healthcare initiatives.
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  • Atul Gawande highlights the critical role of USAID in global health efforts, despite its mischaracterization as ineffective by political figures.
  • The podcast emphasizes the public's disconnect regarding foreign aid's importance, contributing to growing skepticism and political attacks against it.

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Targeting USAID: A Political Maneuver

The U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) has come under intense scrutiny from the Trump administration and Elon Musk, who have labeled the agency a 'criminal organization.' This attack stems from a larger effort to discredit foreign aid efforts, with claims that USAID misappropriates funds, including supposedly spending millions on condoms for Gaza, which is factually incorrect. Atul Gawande, a former head of global health at USAID, emphasizes the agency's critical role in combating global health crises like HIV/AIDS and eradicating diseases such as smallpox and polio. The framing of USAID as ineffective neglects its history of positively impacting millions of lives and protecting Americans from international health threats, showcasing a significant disconnect between public perception and reality regarding foreign aid.

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