In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Mike Kelsey who is the lead pastor of preaching and culture at McLean Bible Church in the Washington, D.C., area. During their conversation, they discuss the process of growing as a young leader, finding the balance of an internal and external call, and evaluating and examining social media in our lives. QUOTES FROM EPISODE 57: "God began to show me, 'You have a passion for communication and you have a passion for truth and that is for a reason.'""Your character, the inner life, has to be stronger than your external responsibilities or reputation or else you will get crushed.""I love seeing leaders who are young and don't know what they are doing and giving them a sandbox to play in because God wants to do big things through them.""God I know you have me here for a reason and there is a responsibility and a stewardship that comes with that influence.""You may have gifting, and you don't always have to wait for somebody else to validate that, but that is one of God's designs for the local church.""There is a benefit in being rooted in a local church where other brothers and sisters in Christ, pastors, and elders are able to say they see that in you.""I love team leadership. I love having some folks that fill in my gaps and I can help fill in their gaps and we sharpen each other.""I didn't make a lot of big leadership mistakes in my early days, but honestly I think that was my biggest mistake.""You are where you are for a reason, and, under authority, take some risks for good reason, to make the glory of God known.""You don't realize how much your feed is actually controlling the feed in your mind.""It's not always wise to just be an open book." RESOURCES MENTIONED The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry by John Mark Comer The Libby App Deep Work by Cal Newport