Q+R: Nephilim, Enoch, Satan and Demons - God E5

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Aug 20, 2018

The discussion kicks off with the contentious Genesis 6 tale of the Nephilim, pondering their identity as divine beings versus human kings. Fascinating connections are drawn between biblical texts and ancient writings like 1 Enoch. Listeners explore the implications of God's sovereignty through the lens of an evil spirit tormenting Saul. Further, the hosts unpack the 72 disciples' experiences with demons, linking it to the fall of Satan. Throughout, themes of rebellion, authority, and the cosmic battle against evil weave a rich tapestry of insights.

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Mirroring Rebellions

Genesis 3 and 6 mirror each other: humans seeking to become God, divine beings merging with humans.
The incarnation is the ultimate Creator merging with humanity, contrasting these rebellions.

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God's Response and the 120 Years

God's response in Genesis 6:3 suggests he views the sons of God's actions as another grab for eternal life.
The 120 years might be a countdown to the flood, symbolizing God's judgment on the rebellious unions.

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Book of Enoch's Interpretation

The Book of Enoch, written around 3rd-2nd century BC, interprets Genesis 6.
It supports the idea of "sons of God" as divine council members rebelling, aligning with ancient Jewish understanding.

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This is our first full Q+R for our ongoing podcast series on the development of the character of “God” in the Bible. Thank you to all of our listeners who sent in questions! Have a question? Send it in to info@jointhebibleproject.com. Don’t forget to give us your name and where you’re from.

Tim and Jon responded to four questions.

(0:40) Felipe from Brazil: “Hi Tim and Jon! My name is Felipe. I am from Brazil, and my question concerns the rebellion of the Sons of God in Genesis 6. Supposing this story talks about actual divine beings as opposed to human kings, do we know for sure the author’s version of the story is the same as 1 Enoch’s, that the divine beings had actual sex with human girls and had actual super-human kids?”

(36:12) Bradley from Kentucky: “A passage that's always been interesting to me is 1 Samuel 16:14, where God sends an evil spirit to torment Saul. It's connected to a passage you mentioned in 1 Kings 22, one of the only other places where this spirit type is mentioned. I was just wondering how your understanding of the Divine Council helps us understand God's sovereignty through this passage.”

(42:20) Jeremy from California: “I'm hoping you can shed some light on Luke 10: 17-20. This is the passage where the 72 disciples return from preaching and report to Jesus that even the demons submit to them in his name. Jesus then responds by alluding to Isaiah 14 regarding the fall of the king of Babylon, but he connects it to the fall of Satan. What's going on here? Does this passage refer back to the fall of the Elohim you mentioned that takes place in the early chapters of Genesis? And does this confirm that "The Satan" is the chief of all of the fallen Elohim just like the king of Babylon is the chief of fallen rulers?”

(1:04:52) John from Houston: “My question is about the term "Son of God" and how that is used in the New Testament. If we look at Romans 8, we can see that we can accept adoption as sons of God in relation to the only begotten son of God, but this seems like a totally different usage of what you guys described from Genesis. So is there any connection that can be made there?”

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Show Produced By:
Dan Gummel, Jon Collins, Matthew Halbert-Howen.

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