As Bad As We Thought

David French, a New York Times columnist, and Larry Diamond, Stanford professor and democracy expert, dive into the complexities of Trump's victory and the alarming political landscape. French candidly shares his frustrations with both politics and sports. Diamond offers a revealing anecdote about Matt Gaetz's surprising impact on GOP dynamics. They also dissect the troubling rise of controversial figures in politics and the implications for democracy. The chat wraps up on a lighter note, humorously discussing The Onion's acquisition of InfoWars.