The Paikin Podcast Everything Political: Carney’s Pipeline, Guilbeault's Gone, & Canada’s New Climate Consensus
Dec 4, 2025
Martha Hall Findlay, a former MP and Liberal leadership contender, teams up with Tony Clement, a former Conservative cabinet minister, for a lively political discussion. They dissect Steven Guilbeault's recent resignation, analyzing its impact on cabinet stability. The duo debates whether Carney's government is leaning conservative and tackles public sentiment on climate change. They also assess the risks and prospects of the new Alberta pipeline MOU, scrutinizing Canada's climate leadership amidst shifting global energy trends.
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Ministers Facing A Principle Moment
- Tony Clement never resigned from cabinet because he could live with decisions he disliked.
- Martha Hall Findlay left politics in 2015 because she could not remain in caucus over principle.
Resignation As A Signal Inside Caucus
- Martha respected Steven Guilbeault's decision to resign on principle despite disagreeing with his climate stance.
- She predicted potential rumblings in caucus from others who feel similarly conflicted.
A Cautionary Cabinet Resignation Story
- Tony recounted advising Michael Chong against resigning over recognition of la nation québécoise.
- He warned Chong that conservatives rarely form government and urged him to be sure before leaving cabinet.