Often we see so many traits & behaviors as directly tied to our morality - including those around how we look, feel, think and act. But journalist & author Rebecca Seal says many of the things we’ve been told are bad are actually just as useful as the good. Her latest book is called Be Bad, Better: How Not Trying So Hard Will Set You Free. Want to become a podcast sponsor, got some feedback for me or just fancy a chat? Email me - thatshelpful@edstott.com

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BOOKS Be Bad, Better: How Not Trying So Hard Will Set You Free

ARTICLES Rebecca’s original article for The Guardian PODCASTS Unlearning Shame with Dr Devon Price How to Work Solo without Losing Your Mind

TIMESTAMPS 00:00:00 - Intro

00:01:24 - Rebecca’s own experience with perfectionism

00:11:39 - Why not trying so hard is empowering

00:18:00 - Why certain behaviors are tied to morality

00:27:10 - Embracing laziness 00:33:30 - Mindlessness over mindfulness

00:37:48 - Getting comfortable with negative emotions 00:48:00 - Accepting being human

00:50:50 - Where did these thoughts come from in the first place? 00:52:20 - Manufactured insecurity