Today President Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin had a 90-minute phone call, making him the first American leader to speak with his Russian counterpart Putin's invasion of Ukraine three years ago. Meanwhile at NATO headquarters, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth made clear the US no longer wants to take the lead protecting Ukraine and poured cold water on some of Kyiv's bottom lines for peace negotiations. Richard Haass served for years in senior positions at the State Department before heading up the Council on Foreign Relations. He joins Christiane from New York to discuss the new world order and "America first."
Also on today's show: Oscar-nominated actor Jeremy Strong ("The Apprentice"); "Death By Numbers" writer/subject Sam Fuentes and producer/director Kim A. Snyder
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