It's the 51st episode of ONE HEAT MINUTE, the podcast examining Michael Mann's 1995 crime opus HEAT minute by minute (50:00-51:00). Host Blake Howard is joined by film writer for The Australian Philippa Hawker. Blake and Philippa talk about what it's like to interview Michael Mann, translating Chicago to Los Angeles, leading thieves in Frank (James Caan) and Neil (Robert De Niro) and Mann's ability to synthesise a lifetime of research into effortless tapestry.

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