

EP 60 – Ian Dunt on the uncomfortable truth of liberalism, populism on the rise, and freedom to Vs freedom from
Jun 4, 2025
Ian Dunt, a prominent journalist and author known for his insights on Brexit and liberal philosophy, sheds light on the awkward realities of liberalism. He discusses the seductive simplicity of populism and its potential threats to individual freedoms. The conversation delves into the emotional connections that drive political engagement, revealing how differing ideologies can still find common ground. Dunt emphasizes embracing complexity in societal values, encouraging meaningful dialogue in an increasingly polarized world.
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The Honest Nature of Liberalism
- Liberalism uniquely admits that utopia is impossible due to human nature's inherent conflicts.
- It aims to moderate and mitigate conflict rather than promise perfection or total agreement.
The Appeal of Simplistic Narratives
- People crave simple, clear stories with clear heroes and villains to explain complex issues.
- This desire explains why simplistic extremist ideologies and conspiracy theories gain appeal over nuanced liberalism.
Liberalism’s Radical Compassion
- Liberalism fosters a warmth by valuing every individual equally beyond group identities.
- It enables compassion for all people regardless of race, country, or class, unlike tribal politics.