In this discussion, Megan McArdle, a columnist at The Washington Post specializing in economics, joins Drew Goins and Molly Roberts to dissect the fate of the penny. They explore why we produce a coin that costs more to make than it’s worth, the nostalgia attached to low-denomination coins, and the political hurdles to phasing them out. The trio also address the implications of moving towards a cashless society, particularly its impact on marginalized communities, and dive into the contrasting reliability of currencies versus cryptocurrencies.
The cost of producing pennies far outweighs their value, prompting discussions about their eventual retirement from circulation.
As digital transactions rise, the podcast explores the implications of cashlessness for privacy and financial accessibility in society.
Deep dives
The Case Against the Penny
The discussion highlights the costs associated with producing pennies, which exceed their face value, leading to a strong argument for retiring this denomination. It is noted that the penny, once a valued currency in past generations, has dwindled in utility due to inflation, rendering it almost obsolete. The podcast emphasizes that most pennies minted quickly fall out of circulation, with an estimated 250 billion pennies hoarded rather than used in transactions. This negative utility means that the time spent dealing with pennies at cash registers is often worth more than the coins themselves.
Historical Context and Political Inertia
The conversation draws parallels between the current sentiment towards the penny and the historical elimination of the half cent, which was also deemed unnecessary due to its negative seniorage. Despite past political leaders advocating for the removal of the penny, the inertia within the political system has prevented any change from occurring. This inertia is largely attributed to the small but vocal lobby advocating for the penny, which consists mainly of zinc and copper manufacturers who fear losing their economic interests. Thus, the podcast suggests that while public sentiment may favor removing the penny, a powerful lobby could stall this simple legislative change.
The Future of Currency: Cash vs. Digital
The podcast raises questions about the future of cash in an era increasingly dominated by digital transactions and cryptocurrency. The potential risks of a cashless society are discussed, particularly the implications for privacy and financial access for those who are unbanked. Additionally, the practicality and stability of cryptocurrency as a medium of exchange are debated, highlighting issues such as volatility and slow transaction times. The conversation concludes with considerations for the role of central bank digital currencies and their potential to replace traditional cash in a secure and efficient manner.
The penny costs more to make than it’s worth, but why is it so difficult to stop making them? Drew Goins, Molly Roberts and Megan McArdle talk about whether there’s a case for continuing to make pennies — and if we should ditch some other coins weighing down our pockets while we’re at it. In fact, how much life is left for cash at all?
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