

Season 8 | Ep36 Philippa Smith on losing it all then scaling back to build a £1m+ EBITDA lifestyle agency
What happens when your 15-person agency runs out of cash and you have to start over from scratch?
On this week's episode of The RAG Podcast, I’m joined by Philippa Smith, founder of Silver Swan Recruitment, a luxury staffing agency for ultra-high net worth individuals.
After growing her team to 15, COVID and poor cash flow caught up with her. In August 2024, she made the entire team redundant and scaled the business back to just herself.
Nine months later, Philippa is now generating more than £1 million in pro-rata EBITDA. She's happier, more focused, and running a business built around lifestyle and profit, not just headcount.
In this episode, we cover:
- How she pivoted her model to charge upfront and improve cash flow
- Why personal branding has transformed her client relationships
- The emotional cost of scaling too fast
- How she’s using podcasting and community to drive inbound growth
- The upside of running a smaller, more agile agency
If you’re questioning whether scale is really the goal, this episode will give you a new perspective.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Silver Swan Recruitment
02:04 Philippa's Journey into Recruitment
07:52 Transition to Silver Swan Recruitment
10:00 Growth and Challenges in Recruitment
18:22 The Impact of COVID-19 on Business
22:01 Navigating Revenue Challenges
24:05 Strategies for Business Development
24:17 Building the Team: Structure and Challenges
25:08 The Turning Point: Running Out of Money
27:19 Facing Reality: Making Tough Decisions
30:01 The Aftermath: Adjusting to Change
32:10 Rebuilding: A New Business Model
34:12 Commitment to Change: Charging Upfront
39:04 Success Redefined: Filling Roles Effectively
41:21 The Power of Personal Branding
46:47 The Power of Podcasting in Recruitment
49:00 Building Communities for House Managers
52:58 Creating Value Through Events and Networking
56:58 The Balance of Work and Personal Life
01:01:02 Lessons Learned and Future Aspirations
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