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What Are We Going to Watch in 2024? Plus, More Marvel Problems.

Nov 2, 2023

Guests Johnathan Majors and Casey Bloys discuss controversies surrounding HBO, including the use of fake Twitter accounts and delayed release dates for popular shows. They also dive into problems at Marvel Studios, such as the handling of Johnathan Majors's 'Kang' character and concerns about the box office performance of 'The Marvels'.

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Casey Bloys

Johnathan Majors

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Quick takeaways

HBO's CEO Casey Bloys faced controversy after using fake Twitter accounts to respond to TV critics.

Marvel Studios is facing challenges including managing the character Kang and low box office expectations for 'The Marvels'.

Deep dives

Marvel in Crisis: Declining Quality Control and Fan Fervor

Marvel is facing criticism for declining quality control, excessive reliance on interconnected stories, and underwhelming fan response. The domestic violence charges against Jonathan Majors, who plays Kang, have created uncertainty about his future in the franchise. The costly production of The Marvels, the sequel to Captain Marvel, has raised concerns about the return on investment. Additionally, the struggles with the Blade reboot and creative challenges with other upcoming projects highlight the complexity of managing such a massive cinematic universe. Marvel must navigate these issues while considering a potential Avengers reunion to breathe new life into the franchise.

Introduction

2min

HBO's Casey Bloys and Burner Twitter Accounts

8min

Controversy Surrounding Burner Accounts and the Impact of Reviews on HBO

2min

The Importance of Long-Form Criticism and Delays in TV Show Release Dates

8min

The Future of Yellowstone and Spin-offs

5min

Private Riots and Marvel Criticism

9min

Marvel's Mismanagement and Franchise Challenges

21min

Chris and Andy talk about the news this week that HBO CEO Casey Bloys was using fake Twitter accounts to hit back at TV critics (1:00) and also that some of HBO’s most popular shows, like ‘White Lotus’ and ‘Euphoria,’ won’t be released until 2025 (16:31). Then they talk about an article published in Variety this week that detailed problems at Marvel Studios, including what to do with Johnathan Majors’s “Kang” character and the forthcoming low box office performance of ‘The Marvels’ (27:21).

Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald

Producer: Kaya McMullen

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