The Sunday Times tech correspondent Danny Fortson brings on Dirk Ahlborn, chief executive of Hyperloop Transportation Technologies to talk about traveling at airline speeds over land, why the idea has failed in the past, (7:00) his part-time army of scientists (11:00), Trump putting a hyperloop on the wall with Mexico (17:30), the end of short-haul flights (26:00) bringing the first "pods" into service by 2020 (42:00) making it free to ride (45:00) and why using freelancers is the best way to make the hyperloop a reality (50:00)

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