The Geopolitics of Cyberspace: From Espionage to Cyberwar, ft. Adam Segal of CFR (EP 26)

In this episode, Adam Segal, discusses the evolving landscape of cyber power, cyber warfare, and cyber espionage. He outlines key technological areas essential for future military and economic competitiveness, such as semiconductors, biology, new materials, and energy. Segal also examines the rise of Chinese and U.S. cyber capabilities, the impact of private sector involvement, the role of major state and non-state actors, and the current state of international cyber policy. He shares lessons from the Russia-Ukraine conflict and emphasizes the importance of maintaining technological control, a principle rooted in Chinese strategic thinking since the 19th century. Finally, he talks about the challenges and opportunities of U.S.-India cyber cooperation and the potential for different countries to build vibrant digital ecosystems.

00:00 Introduction to Chinese Technological Ambitions 00:32 Guest Introduction: Adam Segal 01:19 The Evolution of Chinese Cyber Capabilities 11:00 Historical Context of Chinese Technological Control 15:26 Global Cyber Power Dynamics 31:24 National Cyber Capabilities and Strategies 39:21 Private Sector's Role in Cybersecurity 42:19 Non-State Actors in Cyberspace 45:49 International Cyber Alliances 48:23 Economic Cyber Espionage 49:37 Public-Private Cooperation in Cybersecurity 57:58 U.S. International Cyber Policy 01:06:40 U.S.-India Cyber Cooperation 01:10:34 Conclusion and Recommendations

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