Rory Smith, the chief soccer correspondent for The New York Times and author of 'Expected Goals', dives into the commercialization of soccer and its impact on the sport's future. He discusses the challenges of financial sustainability amidst global uncertainties and streaming revenue changes. The conversation also tackles the complexities of the Qatar World Cup, highlighting issues like migrant workers' rights and safety for LGBTQ+ fans. Plus, he reflects on the impending retirements of legends like Messi and Ronaldo, shaping a transformative era in soccer.