

Inside the Playbook: Shawn Desman and Managers on What Really Makes a Great Artist
What makes a great artist, and a great manager?
In this conversation, Shawn Desman, Steve Zsirai, and Chad Walsh break down the traits that separate the good from the unforgettable. From delivering “the good stuff” right away to the power of live performance and the rare quality of time feel, they share what truly moves audiences.
The discussion also touches on lessons from Beyoncé, Coldplay, Drake, and legendary producers like Darkchild and Tricky. And just as important, we explore what makes a great manager: vision, empathy, honesty, and the ability to identify opportunities others miss.
Whether you’re an artist or on the management side, this episode is packed with insights to help you elevate your career.
A conversation like this doesn't come cheap.
Listen to the full episode here -
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https://open.spotify.com/episode/1uwdpt8Z2i0PmUt70hhc76?si=ekjULlriRweFoLFGxe57Eg
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