The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast CNLP 699 | Zach Zehnder on What's Wrong in Current Discipleship, Planting a Church In a Mainline Denomination, and How to Know When It's Time to Leave
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Dec 31, 2024 Zach Zehnder, a Lutheran pastor and author, discusses the flaws in current discipleship practices and his experiences planting a church in a mainline denomination. He emphasizes the need for deeper commitments to Jesus amidst modern challenges and the disconnect between church growth metrics and authentic faith development. Zach also shares insights on knowing when to transition away from pastoral roles and highlights the importance of supportive networks in church planting. Their conversation dives into personality dynamics that enhance collaboration in ministry.
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Believers vs. Followers
- Many churches excel at creating believers, but not true followers of Jesus.
- This leads to Christians whose lives look no different than non-Christians.
Defining Discipleship
- Defining discipleship is simple, though living it out is challenging.
- A disciple strives to be, act, and live like their leader, Jesus.
Consequences of Broken Discipleship
- Malformed discipleship creates confusion and blurs the lines between Christians and non-Christians.
- Personally, it leads to shame as pastors know discipleship is important but struggle to implement it.