What happens when a new technology transforms how we communicate ideas and information? Best-selling science fiction writer Naomi Alderman joins Amol to explain why she thinks the digital age has pushed us into a “third information crisis”, which is as profound as the invention of writing or the printing press.

Drawing on those past revolutions, Naomi offers some solutions to help us navigate the era we're living through. She suggests new laws to regulate the online world and potentially even a “checked internet” like Wikipedia, which is home to verified facts rather than misinformation.

But at the heart of her argument is the need to prioritise real world, human connection and resist the urge to move everything online.

Naomi also tells Amol how therapy has helped her and why she’s written her first non-fiction book after a series of successful novels.

(00:03:23) What is the third information crisis?

(00:08:01) Why the invention of the printing press caused the Reformation

(00:10:40) Challenges of an information crisis

(00:12:40) The transition to literature

(00:16:30) The pros and cons of smartphones

(00:20:30) The origins of writing and how that changed human connection

(00:24:10) Collective thinking and decision making

(00:26:30) What is social media doing to our minds?

(00:29:06) Naomi’s radical ideas

(00:39:28) Hope for the future

(00:42:30) Scepticism about AI

(00:49:40) Digital ID

(00:51:29) Is this making it better or worse to be human?

(00:55:10) The importance of therapy and becoming reconciled with the events of her life

(01:00:00) What’s next for Naomi Alderman?

(01:02:09) Amol’s reflections

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