209. The Mess of Same-Sex Attraction (w/ Heath Lambert)
May 10, 2022
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Heath Lambert, an expert on how the Gospel speaks to same-sex attraction, joins Scott Mehl to discuss various topics. They explore the significance of empathy in counseling, the value of kind conversations, understanding labels, the cycle of temptation and suffering, the cultural shift in perception of homosexuality, finding hope and redemption in the gospel, and the importance of trust and speaking truth.
Approach conversations about same-sex attraction with empathy and understanding, avoiding angry debates or social media rants.
Be sensitive to the labels individuals choose to identify with in relation to their same-sex attraction, striving to understand their perspective before introducing biblical language and perspectives.
Support individuals dealing with same-sex attraction by being a loving, kind, and generous presence, creating a safe and welcoming environment that demonstrates the love of Jesus.
Deep dives
Importance of Context and Understanding
When counseling individuals struggling with same-sex attraction, it is crucial to remember the context of the conversation. Engaging in angry debates or social media rants is not helpful when someone is seeking guidance and support. Instead, approach the conversation as a friend or shepherd, seeking to understand their personal struggles rather than just focusing on the issue itself.
Labeling and Language
When a person identifies with certain labels related to their same-sex attraction, it is important to be sensitive and not immediately correct or deny their chosen language. Instead, strive to understand what they mean by the labels they use, and gradually introduce biblical language and perspectives that can provide a different perspective.
The Power of Love and Generosity
One practical way to support individuals dealing with same-sex attraction is to be a loving, kind, and generous presence in their lives. Show them a model of genuine love without any sexual interest, and be committed to loving them unconditionally. Create a safe and welcoming environment in your church community, embracing people struggling with this issue and demonstrating the love of Jesus through meaningful connections and supportive relationships.
Understanding the Shift in Attitudes Towards Homosexuality
In this podcast episode, the speaker discusses the significant shift in societal attitudes towards homosexuality over the years. They reflect on how homosexuality was once considered wrong and kept under wraps, while now it is more accepted and even celebrated. This shift has led to different forms of shame experienced by individuals. Some people feel pressured to engage in same-sex relationships to be accepted, while others struggle with the guilt of their desires. The speaker emphasizes the importance of listening to people's stories to truly understand their experiences and how to effectively bring the truth of God into their lives.
Finding Hope and Redemption in Christian Faith
The podcast delves into how Scripture offers hope in the face of suffering, whether it be a result of our own sin or the brokenness of the world. The speaker references 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 to address the issue of homosexuality and emphasizes that every sin, including homosexuality, is listed alongside other sins in the Bible. However, the hope lies in verse 11, which highlights the power of Jesus Christ's work in cleansing and transforming individuals. The speaker encourages embracing a new identity in Christ and focuses on the transformative power of the gospel for all sinners, regardless of the specific struggle.
In this episode of The Messy Podcast, Scott Mehl interviews Heath Lambert about how the Gospel speaks to same-sex attraction.
Sponsored by Eternity Bible College: https://www.eternity.edu
Resources:
The Secret Thoughts of an Unlikely Convert, Expanded Edition: An English Professor's Journey into Christian Faith by Rosaria Champagne Butterfield,
https://www.christianbook.com/thoughts-unlikely-expanded-edition-professors-christian/rosaria-butterfield/9781884527807/pd/527807
Trusting God by Jerry Bridges,
https://www.amazon.com/Trusting-God-Jerry-Bridges/dp/1631467921
For counselors:
Transforming Homosexuality: What the Bible Says about Sexual Orientation and Change by Denny Burk and Heath Lambert,
https://www.amazon.com/Transforming-Homosexuality-Sexual-Orientation-Change/dp/1596381396
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