Frances Haugen, a former Facebook employee and founder of the non-profit Beyond the Screen, discusses the fallout from her leaked documents revealing internal practices that affected public trust and Meta's stock. She contrasts Facebook's decline with TikTok's rise, emphasizing the impact of user behavior and data privacy. Haugen advocates for transparency and ethical practices in social media, while also sharing personal insights on health changes from moving to Puerto Rico. It's a lively conversation packed with nuance and laughter!