Jonathan Pageau joins for a conversation with Dr. Wolfgang Smith and Dr. Richard Smith about icons, symbolism and our connection to the Divine. Links to books and articles mentioned will follow the timestamps.

Timestamps

00:00 Opening chitchat

01:20 Intro

05:30 Wolfgang Smith’s Tripartite Cosmos icon

12:00 Jonathan’s question about the icon

20:15 Examples of 3 dimensional versions

28:50 Jonathan’s icons

42:40 Wolfgang responds to question about the aeviternal realm

45:20 Jean Borella quote as an opening to the question of the symbolism of the Cross

53:20 The connection to the Divine is what fill it with Reality, bringing up into Glory

1:05:30 Without an identity, you can’t measure anything. Identity is a gift.

1:15:30 The cup, the apple, identity and coherence over time an Wolfram’s Theory

1:19:30 Obstacle is the gift

1:27:50 The introduction of perspective in sacred art

1:31:20 Wolfgang is encouraged meeting Jonathan

Wolfgang's books (selected out of a long list)

The Vertical Ascent

The Quantum Enigma

Cosmos and Transcendence

Ancient Wisdom and Modern Misconceptions

The new physics by Stephen Wolfram: https://wolframphysics.org

Jonathan Pageau and Wolfgang Smith: Reductionism v. The Symbolism of the Cross