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#330 - Harvard's #1 Mind Control Expert Fears MK-Ultra is STILL Active | Rebecca Lemov

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Sep 8, 2025

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Rebecca Lemov

Rebecca Lemov, a historian and author specializing in behavioral sciences, dives deep into mind control and brainwashing. She discusses the unsettling legacy of MK-Ultra and its ongoing implications, revealing how these practices infiltrated various sectors, from military to social media. The conversation also touches on the bizarre connections between past experiments, cult dynamics, and the role of trauma in shaping belief systems. Lemov warns of the shadowy manipulation techniques still lurking in our digital lives and the dangers they pose to individual freedoms.

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Brainwashing Reveals Social Control

Brainwashing research lets you ask deep questions about social control and human behavior.
Rebecca Lemov started teaching a brainwashing class because the topic forces examination of how social systems shape minds.

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Mice Utopia As Human Model

Lemov traced behaviorist animal experiments like John Calhoun's 'mice utopia' as models for human social decline.
She notes Calhoun's mice showed overcrowding led to deviant, violent behaviors and societal collapse.

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Internalized Social Engineering

Early Rockefeller-funded behaviorists aimed to 'engineer' humans by shaping environments rather than forcing compliance.
The goal was internalized control: build environments that make people self-adjust into desired social roles.

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Rebecca Lemov is a historian of behavioral sciences, behavioral micro-control, and brainwashing. Her new book, "The Instability of Truth: Brainwashing, Mind Control, Hyper-Persuasion" reveals how the idea of mind control has spread across the globe and penetrated courtrooms, secret labs, military schools, and today’s digital sites.