CISO Series Podcast

We’ll Worry About Recovering From the Attack Once We Ace This Audit

Jul 22, 2025
Peter Clay, CISO at Aireon, delves into the evolving landscape of cybersecurity. He emphasizes that traditional red and blue teaming concepts may be losing relevance amidst modern threats. Peter advocates for a shift in incident response to examine deeper systemic issues rather than just symptoms. He argues that effective risk management requires business context over mere compliance, and stresses the importance of understanding the balance between performance and process in IT auditing. Listen for fresh insights on navigating complexities in cybersecurity.
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ANECDOTE

Firewall Misconfiguration Failures

  • Peter Clay shared mistakes with enterprise firewalls crashing after rule overload and misconfigurations.
  • He now prefers to avoid managing internet firewalls personally due to these failures.
INSIGHT

AI's Impact on Red vs Blue Teams

  • AI will likely replace red team roles faster than blue team roles.
  • Blue teams require quick, complex decisions beyond rigid playbooks, especially during zero-day attacks.
ADVICE

Conduct Thorough Postmortems

  • Admit failures openly during postmortems and avoid blame.
  • Explore all contributing issues until you identify multiple failures, not just one cause.
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