The unprecedented has happened: a former president was arrested and charged with 34 counts of falsifying business records. Though some of Donald Trump’s supporters dismiss it as spectacle, others see it as the fulfillment of prophecy. Jeff Sharlet, a contributing editor to Harper’s Magazine and the author of the new book The Undertow: Scenes from a Slow Civil War, discusses what this latest development means to Trump’s faithful flock, and his years of reporting on the right-wing extremists who have become the new center-right.

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